this is in wiki,what is it?

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by The Captain

For its time it was a great improvement for the standard compact sports car.

Wish the Imark had this.

Wrong again. The Civic Si at the time had a far superior suspension. Double wishbones are a far better setup than a strut. That's why 88-91 Civic Si's win National Championships in Auto-X. Also the DA Integra sported double wishbones. A modification that would've made more sense and improved the handling more than toeing the rear out would've been a viscous LSD.

Even for its time, the Storm/Impulse suspension was an inferior geometry but to its credit it's dialed in okay from the factory. But an all around strut suspension is never going to be called superior technically unless you're comparing it to a suspension setup from the 70's.

Don't buy into something that's really a bunch of marketing hype and nothing else.

[venomous]

A modification that would've made more sense and improved the handling more than toeing the rear out would've been a viscous LSD.

Yep...wish I had one.

That's why 88-91 Civic Si's win National Championships in Auto-X.

They are fast but not unbeatable.
I think there was a 240 and a 2.5rs subie in contention last year.
I'd like to buy a 240 someday

[Athos]

Originally Posted by Skaterkid

Wrong again. The Civic Si at the time had a far superior suspension. Double wishbones are a far better setup than a strut. That's why 88-91 Civic Si's win National Championships in Auto-X. Also the DA Integra sported double wishbones. A modification that would've made more sense and improved the handling more than toeing the rear out would've been a viscous LSD.

Even for its time, the Storm/Impulse suspension was an inferior geometry but to its credit it's dialed in okay from the factory. But an all around strut suspension is never going to be called superior technically unless you're comparing it to a suspension setup from the 70's.

Don't buy into something that's really a bunch of marketing hype and nothing else.

I agree on the better solution for the Honda, but it is expensive, new Civics use it only for rear axle, a change I still consider a mistake since they shoud have kept the feature that made their cars unique. And the suspension on our cars is better than having the crappy twist-beam axle in the rear of most new compact cars: Aveo, Cobalt, Corolla, Astra, Golf, Fiesta, Clio, Palio, Punto, Sentra, Tiida/Versa, and on and on.

My mom's Fiat has it, and believe it, the feeling is crappy.

[TurboImark]

Originally Posted by The Captain

Wish the Imark had this.

Why? The damn thing turns on a dime and hugs the road like nothing else.

[isuzunut]

Originally Posted by TurboImark

Why? The damn thing turns on a dime and hugs the road like nothing else.

I-Marks do not need it!.. We will just agree with anything on paper; then take it to the track and beat the c... out of anything on 4-wheels..

I remember Bridgehampton in Long Island.... Integra GSRs where marginally faster (on the straight) with any-and-all bolt-ons at the time, and I had only a homemade intake and an exhaust system. Ohhh those where the days!

[The Captain]

Imarks do handle pretty good stock. Problem with mine is the struts kinda suck.

Future suspension upgrades: Strut bar, RTR Coil overs,

However rear wheel drive on a JR is so nice.

[ReStoring]

Originally Posted by Skaterkid

Man, this thread is like a train wreck. Lotus suspension only changed springs, struts and anti-roll bars. Nothing in the geometry changed for the RS or the Storm. So, all JI models have this "feature". It's a pretty basic geometry that allows a little toe out in compression in order to allow the rear grip to get lower so that the car feels more neutral. Lotus models probably feel a little more neutral because of the bigger rear bar allowing more weight transfer to the outside rear tire and the bigger front bar helped reduce camber loss in the front, but all Isuzu JI models have this because the geometry is exactly the same. It's really nothing special. Most cars have toe steer to one degree or another. Most cause toe in under compression to enhance stability. A lot of sporty FWD and AWD cars have toe out under compression for the same reason we have it.

2nd Gen Mazda RX-7's use the deforming bushings to get "rear steering" but with a totally different geometry.

Thank you Robbie, I was beginning to lose faith the Zone gods were dormant.

[Lakeshow23]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Also the DA Integra sported double wishbones.

The double wishbone setup was nice, but I'll still take the handling of the Storm GSi/Impulse over the Teggy. The Integra of the same generation feels better for daily driving, but that's about it.

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by Lakeshow23

The double wishbone setup was nice, but I'll still take the handling of the Storm GSi/Impulse over the Teggy. The Integra of the same generation feels better for daily driving, but that's about it.

Yay thread revival.

[Flanimal]

Two-thousand and eight called. They want their thread back.

[Lakeshow23]

When you have a long and big black johnson (with a large blood carrying vein), you can do these kinds of things.

[Garrett]

Pics or it didn't happen

[InfInIty13X]

Originally Posted by Lakeshow23

When you have a long and big black johnson (with a large blood carrying vein), you can do these kinds of things.

You're drunk.